The Roundtable is a monthly video podcast created by Sista, supported by the Pacific Media Assistance Scheme (PACMAS), with technical support provided by Wan Nambanga.

Each episode is hosted by Yasmine Covo, bringing onboard a guest to the table to share their perspective on the biggest issues and ideas shaping conversations in Vanuatu today—whether political, economic, or social.

To ensure the dialogue reflects the community, every episode is paired with street interviews that capture the voices of everyday Ni-Vanuatu with the mission of encouraging more people to engage with national issues and to make space for voices that matter.

Over 8 months, The Roundtable will deliver 8 full-length video podcasts, alongside short clips, articles, and social media content.

In this second episode of the Roundtable, Yasmine Covo sits down with Josepheen Tarianga, the Program Manager at Sista who is currently studying Bachelor of Law and Arts at the University of the South Pacific, who is also a former Journalist and Marketing Executive.

Their conversation explores three main topics: the bus fare increase survey, the other is the high-profile cases of members of parliament, and the By-law which has now been declared void, passed by Shefa Provincial Government Council that forbids women from operating food stalls, roadside markets or preparing food for sale during their menstruation.

This episode dives into how different locations and destinations influence one’s day to day experience of commuting to work or school or just anywhere, by bus, and what impacts the increase of bus fare to 200 Vatu (VT) will have not just on the customers but also for the bus drivers.

The discussion then turns to the high-profile cases of members of parliament who have recently been in the spotlight for various allegations of illegal acts and high-profile court cases. Rounding off the dialogue with the topic of the Shefa Provincial Government Council pass a controversial bylaw that forbids women from operating food stalls, roadside markets, or preparing food for sale during their menstruation.

 

Episode Highlights

Yasmine kicked off the conversation by acknowledging that it benefits the driver to see the increase from 150 vatu to 200 vatu. She then asked Josepheen what she would like to see as a consumer for that extra 50 vatu.

“I totally understand that there are costs with owning a vehicle, buses, as with every other vehicle. But first, it’s completely unfair to just look at the cost just for the vehicle itself or the vehicle owner themselves, or public transport service providers. We must also look at the other side of the coin, which is an everyday consumer and the minimum wage as well. If you’re asking for that extra 50 vatu, we really do need to see certain changes in the quality of the service itself, the quality of the vehicles that are public transport” said Josepheen.

“There’s also that option of getting meters. Other countries do it, and they’ve been very effective in making sure that the person who’s the passenger only gets to pay for what service they’re receiving. So of course, that means that if you’re going further, then you get to pay a certain price,” she continued.

The conversation touched on the recent amendment to the Public Land Transport Act, reducing the number of board members from 10 to 6. Our guest, Josepheen shared her opinions on this stating that she really thinks with this new amendment, we’re going to see these more structured prices, which is what the public is asking for, including improved in quality of the services such as clean air conditioning, safety training for the drivers, especially for the safety of women.

When asked what she thinks about the many politicians who are now facing the court, are more leaders creating more crimes or are our laws and justice system finally doing their job? She responded by saying that she “does think that this has more to do with the judiciary system becoming more effective, a crackdown on corruption.”

“People in power have been committing crimes because of that power imbalance for ages. But this time, I think it has more to do with our judiciary system being more effective.

Everybody’s taking these matters more seriously because we’re starting to become more aware of the fact that they are problems,” she added.

She further commented on how the MPs often get treated as superior to regular citizens of the country. “This big man mindset is something that we talk about a lot, you know? We put them to a certain level and then we get so frustrated when we look around and ask why this isn’t happening? Or why aren’t our leaders doing this? Or why does this keep happening? But we ourselves are the ones that allow this to continue happening because we cannot separate what is actual criticism of their leadership and their personal lives…it’s not an attack when we hold them accountable…you can’t go in and then you treat it like this is your kitchen, this is your community, this is an actual legitimate office that has committed itself to a service and to a standard that has morals and has values and you committed yourself to that. So, we must hold them accountable to that standard and to those services that they said they would deliver.”

The conversation also discussed the By- Law passed by the Shefa Provincial Council which has now been repealed. The law forbids women from operating food stalls, roadside markets, or preparing food for sale during their menstruation. This means that enforcement offices have the power to cancel food stall permits, and that any person found in violation may face a fine of up to 20,000 vatu or imprisonment for up to three months or both. The guest was asked to share her immediate thoughts on this.

“My immediate thought was that this is ridiculous. Like this, is so silly. I’ve never heard of a more unenforceable law. And when I think about how you could possibly enforce such a thing, I shiver. I don’t think there’s much more to say. I feel that that is the majority consensus on reaction to hearing this,” she said.

“I think where customs and culture are concerned, there definitely are traditions and customs for certain places where you’re not allowed to do that, or you’re not supposed to do that. And it’s something that they enforce in the home. And it’s just practice.  It’s not something that’s ever been instigated in a bylaw. And the thing about that is not all cultures have that; not all customs have that as one of their practices or their teachings, but this is a Shefa by-law. It kind of covers a large amount of places, many customs, like different customs and different cultures. So, it’s like enforcing a set standard on a big group of people who don’t necessarily have the same custom,” she further stated.

Discussions also centered around the fact that for most of these women, road market is their source of income. It’s one thing to want to preserve these customs, but the reality is that people need to put food on the table and send their children to school. Who is going to compensate for the days of work missed?

Why You Should Listen to this podcast

If you are a citizen whose concerned about the different issues affecting our country, such as politicians and their misuse of public funds, to proposed changes such as the 200vt bus fare increase and development of laws that are discriminatory and unfair, this episode offers insightful thought-provoking conversation that you wouldn’t want to miss out on.

About the Guest

Josepheen Tarianga is the Program Manager at Sista, where she oversees projects that empower women and young girls in Vanuatu. She is currently pursuing a Bachelor of Law and Arts at the University of the South Pacific. Before joining Sista, Josepheen gained experience in media as a journalist and in marketing as a marketing executive. A full-time program manager, student, and mum to a cheeky three-year-old, she balances her busy days with time spent reading, crocheting, gardening, and spending time with her family and friends.

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